Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bashandy-bgp-frr-vector-label-00.txt
Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 20 July 2012 06:38 UTC
Return-Path: <robert@raszuk.net>
X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8497D21F8653 for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:38:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yMQOfatkc8zz for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail1310.opentransfer.com (mail1310.opentransfer.com [76.162.254.103]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E6A21F85F2 for <idr@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 22032 invoked by uid 399); 20 Jul 2012 06:39:43 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.77.83.122?) (pbs:robert@raszuk.net@72.254.61.36) by mail1310.opentransfer.com with ESMTPM; 20 Jul 2012 06:39:43 -0000
X-Originating-IP: 72.254.61.36
Message-ID: <5008FD2E.1000006@raszuk.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:39:42 +0200
From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ahmed Bashandy <bashandy@cisco.com>
References: <20120708140543.21354.82768.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4FFB2330.4020809@cisco.com> <5002918F.3010107@raszuk.net> <5004A3B2.4040606@cisco.com> <5004C4A0.8030306@raszuk.net> <50086564.9020500@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <50086564.9020500@cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: "idr@ietf.org List" <idr@ietf.org>, "Maciek Konstantynowicz (mkonstan)" <mkonstan@cisco.com>, rtgwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bashandy-bgp-frr-vector-label-00.txt
X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
Reply-To: robert@raszuk.net
List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing <idr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/idr>
List-Post: <mailto:idr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 06:38:50 -0000
Ahmed, > May be I understood the source of confusion regarding paths > The draft does not require modifications to existing prefix > advertisements rules or implementations. All the draft is saying is that > if a prefix satisfies the conditions for attaching and advertising "rL" > and the prefix is being advertised, then rPE attaches "rL" as an > optional attribute. To the best of my knowledge today we do not have a defined attribute in BGP to carry MPLS labels. If you are proposing a solution which does not have corresponding encoding in the protocol you intend to use I think you are going a wrong way. > Regarding diverging to implementation details, I am not prepared to > discuss any implementation details, at least at this point in time, and > I will refrain from commenting on any of them. That's neat :) While you may claim that everything is an implementation detail I think you should not be stating as an advantage of your proposal the following: " o Very scalable: o No router has to copy the routing table of another router" > AB2: As mentioned at the beginning of the email, the draft never > indicated that it requires changes to BGP prefix advertisement rules or > implementations. All the draft is saying that "rL" can be attached to > advertised prefixes if the PE can and is willing to act as a repair PE Than your solution is broken. You must at min enable best external to cover the case where the VPN chooses by local preference or med different exit point as best path. If you do not enable best external or add-paths your repair paths will not get advertised. >> Anyhow to realize your scheme even if we solve major issues a network >> wide upgrade of participating routers is mandatory. >> > AB2: This is incorrect. The scheme can be incrementally deployed few > routers at a time. For example, one iPE, one rP and two ePEs. That was correct. Pls notice what I said: "participating routers". Do you expect iPE, rP and two ePEs all be from the same vendor and same OS branch supporting your feature ??? > AB2: The draft never claimed that it works in all scenarios (and no > document should be making this claim). But for this particular scenario, > can you provide more clarification ? I am afraid this is an implementation detail how you organize the packet switching after termination of the IP tunnel. Rgs, R.
- [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bas… Ahmed Bashandy
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ahmed Bashandy
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ahmed Bashandy
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ahmed Bashandy
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ahmed Bashandy
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ahmed Bashandy