Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd)
Pedro Marques <roque@juniper.net> Wed, 26 November 2008 06:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd)
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On Nov 25, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > Yakov, > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 05:40:33PM -0800, Yakov Rekhter wrote: >> With my WG chair hat off, I think the document more or less satisfies >> the requirements. The only two change I would suggest to make are >> (a) to >> eliminate a special case for Withdrawn Routes (this is based on >> some discussion that happened few years ago initiated by Pedro >> Marques), > > By this, do you mean you don't believe that MRAI should be separately > configurable for reachability and unreachability? The rational for not treating them differently is that a single event as it propagates through the network gets expressed as both reachability and withdrawal information. The typical example being an SP that acquires a newly preferred peer route which them causes it to send withdrawals to other peers (reachable converts to unreachable). My understanding is that this behavior has been well document in practical observations of BGP convergence. In general my recommendation for MRAI values would be 0 for eBGP and 0 for iBGP. As the draft correctly explains calculating a value that best fits the network is a very tricky business. regards, Pedro. _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Paul Jakma
- [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Danny McPherson
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Pedro Marques
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Pedro Marques
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Pedro Marques
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Paul Jakma
- [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) John Leslie
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) UTTARO, JAMES, ATTLABS
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Glen Kent
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Enke Chen
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Idr] draft-jakma-mrai-dep-00 (fwd) Yakov Rekhter