Re: [Idr] One Administrative Domain using BGP (Fwd: I-D Action: draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad-00.txt)

"UTTARO, JAMES" <ju1738@att.com> Wed, 15 March 2023 15:23 UTC

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From: "UTTARO, JAMES" <ju1738@att.com>
To: "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" <jheitz@cisco.com>
CC: Alvaro Retana <alvaro.retana@futurewei.com>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>, "draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad@ietf.org" <draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] One Administrative Domain using BGP (Fwd: I-D Action: draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad-00.txt)
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The middle AS is not part of the same administrative authority, so the draft does not apply.

Thanks,
          Jim Uttaro

From: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 8:51 AM
To: UTTARO, JAMES <ju1738@att.com>
Cc: Alvaro Retana <alvaro.retana@futurewei.com>; idr@ietf.org; draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad@ietf.org
Subject: Re: One Administrative Domain using BGP (Fwd: I-D Action: draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad-00.txt)

Somebody surely will.
Regards,
Jakob.



On Mar 15, 2023, at 4:09 AM, UTTARO, JAMES <ju1738@att.com<mailto:ju1738@att.com>> wrote:

Jakob,

          In that case we would not want the attributes transferred as the middle AS is not part of the existing OAD.

Thanks,
          Jim Uttaro

From: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com<mailto:jheitz@cisco.com>>
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To: Alvaro Retana <alvaro.retana@futurewei.com<mailto:alvaro.retana@futurewei.com>>; idr@ietf.org<mailto:idr@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: One Administrative Domain using BGP (Fwd: I-D Action: draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad-00.txt)

If two ASes that are part of an OAD are separated by an AS that is not in the OAD, then the internal attributes will not be transferred.
Why don't you invent an ATTR_SET?

Kind Regards,
Jakob


From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Alvaro Retana <alvaro.retana@futurewei.com<mailto:alvaro.retana@futurewei.com>>
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Subject: [Idr] One Administrative Domain using BGP (Fwd: I-D Action: draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad-00.txt)
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Dear WG:

We just published a draft [1] to propose a new BGP session type called EBGP-OAD.

As the name suggests, it is a session between two different ASNs that belong to the same operator.  Many idr documents call this grouping a Single Administrative Domain, we're calling it One Administrative Domain (OAD).

An EBGP-OAD session combines properties of EBGP and IBGP: it is an EBGP session with the ability to also announce and receivex IBGP-only or non-transitive attributes.

I'm sure this first version needs some more work, so we would really appreciate comments on the list.  We have requested agenda time at IETF 116, but, as we all know, that may be tight.

Thanks in advance!


Alvaro.



[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad__;!!BhdT!nDt32HTdf9KSMoCMKZj-CAKPpy719C7j1R2AeTe5UZQ1OTen2POEiTlVDYds6bjqaAMaZSclBwIy$>


On March 13, 2023 at 10:38:39 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> (internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>) wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.

Title : One Administrative Domain using BGP
Authors : Jim Uttaro
Avinash Lingala
Keyur Patel
Dhananjaya Rao
Bin Wen
Alvaro Retana
Srihari Sangli
Pradosh Mohapatra
Filename : draft-uttaro-idr-bgp-oad-00.txt
Pages : 8
Date : 2023-03-10

Abstract:
This document defines a new External BGP (EBGP) peering type known as
EBGP-OAD. EBGP-OAD peering is used between two EBGP peers that
belong to One Administrative Domain (OAD).

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
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