Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10.txt
Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 24 October 2014 16:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10.txt
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Bertrand, There are number of optional elements and implementation choices when developing add-paths functionality. It would be desirable to see in one place comparison what advertisement options given implementation supports and which ones are missing. You may recall a draft from Piere which lists in section 4.3 various selection options ... https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-06 Does all cisco implementations support all of those ? I am not to push processes, but even if IETF becomes a bit more modern and for each protocol extensions have a wiki where developer can just click when implementing an optional functionality - it would be very helpful. Procedurally indeed there is a problem with implementation report drafts as they seems to be not progressing to RFCs ... For example this one seems hanging: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mynam-grow-diverse-path-impl-01 Best, R. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie) < bduvivie@cisco.com> wrote: > Robert, > > > > Add-Path has been deployed by many SP’s with mix vendor environment since > years and does works fine... > > > > Thus we may need to ask, what is the added value of such document (outside > of following processes). > > > > For Cisco, my BGP team is ready to provide full support if someone start > this exercise/ implementation draft but I’m not ready to take the lead and > fund this works, this is not our priority. > > > > BTW: my personal opinion (Not Cisco): I’m in favor to ask SP’s who > deployed Add-Path to speak up and provide feedback and bypass the > implementation draft if we believe we got enough return from experience. > > > > Best Regards Bertrand Duvivier > > IP routing Product Manager > > > > > > *From:* rraszuk@gmail.com [mailto:rraszuk@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert > Raszuk > *Sent:* vendredi 24 octobre 2014 18:00 > *To:* Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie) > *Cc:* Acee Lindem (acee); Jeffrey Haas; idr@ietf.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10.txt > > > > > > Shouldn't we have an implementation report draft documenting those details > before WG last call on the main draft ? > > > > r. > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie) < > bduvivie@cisco.com> wrote: > > Acee, Jeff, > > To be more precise for Cisco we already support it in our 3 OS's > - IOS XE and IOS classic (CPE and Access routing platform OS) > - IOS XR (hig-end routing platform OS) > - NXOS (switching platform OS) > And interoperability have been tested between Cisco OS's, with Juniper > JUNOS, and few others > > Best Regards Bertrand Duvivier > IP routing Product Manager > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bertrand Duvivier > (bduvivie) > Sent: vendredi 24 octobre 2014 17:49 > To: Acee Lindem (acee); Jeffrey Haas; idr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10.txt > > Agree, has been implemented in many OS's already > > Best Regards Bertrand Duvivier > IP routing Product Manager > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee) > Sent: vendredi 24 octobre 2014 17:02 > To: Jeffrey Haas; idr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10.txt > > I just reread it for the first time in a couple years and would agree that > it is ready for WG last call. > Thanks, > Acee > > On 10/24/14, 10:18 AM, "Jeffrey Haas" <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote: > > >The update below addressed the major open issue that remained for the > >feature, as deployed, to match the spec: The behavior for ebgp has been > >moved out of operation and into deployment considerations. > > > >I'm not an author, but I believe this draft is finally read for a > >hopefully short Working Group Last Call. > > > >-- Jeff > > > >On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 06:57:42AM -0700, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >>directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the Inter-Domain Routing Working Group > >>of the IETF. > >> > >> Title : Advertisement of Multiple Paths in BGP > >> Authors : Daniel Walton > >> Alvaro Retana > >> Enke Chen > >> John Scudder > >> Filename : draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10.txt > >> Pages : 8 > >> Date : 2014-10-24 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> In this document we propose a BGP extension that allows the > >> advertisement of multiple paths for the same address prefix without > >> the new paths implicitly replacing any previous ones. The essence of > >> the extension is that each path is identified by a path identifier in > >> addition to the address prefix. > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths/ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Idr mailing list > >Idr@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > >
- [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10.txt internet-drafts
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Bertrand Duvivier (bduvivie)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-10… Ondrej Zajicek