Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] Updating the IESG statement on IEEE EtherTypes

["Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <[e-mail]>]

Just in time ;-) and the text is clearer because I have always wondered what "playpen" meant ;-)

Regards

-éric

From: Roger Marks <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, 27 April 2023 at 01:37
To: Eric Vyncke <[e-mail]>
Cc: The IESG <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Juan Carlos Zuniga <[e-mail]>, Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, RAC <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] Updating the IESG statement on IEEE EtherTypes

Eric,

If it’s not too late, please also consider this update to the reference:

Note that Local Experimental (“playpen”) EtherTypes have been assigned in IEEE 802 [1] for use during protocol development and experimentation.
[1] IEEE Std 802a-2003 (Amendment to IEEE Std 802-2001).
      IEEE standard for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks:
      Overview and Architecture

Cheers,

Roger
On Apr 26, 2023, 3:36 AM -0600, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[e-mail]>, wrote:

Roger,

Thank you for the review

I have updated the gDoc with your suggestions.

-éric

From: Roger Marks <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 18:58
To: Eric Vyncke <[e-mail]>
Cc: The IESG <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Juan Carlos Zuniga <[e-mail]>, Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, RAC <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] Updating the IESG statement on IEEE EtherTypes

éric,

Within the IEEE RAC, we’ve looked at this and appreciate the updates. Here are two additional suggested changes, both in the first paragraph (which is currently shown broken into two paragraphs):

(1)
http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/ethertype/
to:
https://standards.ieee.org/products-programs/regauth/ethertype/

(2)
All EtherType requests are subject to review by a consultant to the IEEE RA followed by IEEE RAC confirmation.
to:
All EtherType applications are subject to IEEE RA technical review for consistency with policy.


Thanks for your consideration.

Cheers,

Roger
On Apr 24, 2023, 7:17 PM -0600, Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>, wrote:
Hi Eric,

Sounds good. As soon as the IESG statement is updated, I'll update the draft.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 10:06 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Thanks for all the comments. The footnote is now a reference to "IEEE Std 802" (I.e., no year, no sub-part reference).

I expect that this Thursday IESG telechat will approve the light modifications and that the IESG statement will be updated by next week.

Regards

-éric

From: ieee-ietf-coord <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> on behalf of Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Date: Friday, 21 April 2023 at 21:43
To: Eric Vyncke <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Cc: The IESG <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Juan Carlos Zuniga <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Subject: Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] Updating the IESG statement on IEEE EtherTypes

Hi Eric,

Thanks for working on this. I see that the title has already been changed so that EtherType is camel cased. I recommend just dropping the ".1" in the reference ("802.1-2014" -> "802-2014") and keeping the year. It is known that 802-2014 contains the relevant material.

Thanks,
Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   [phone] (cell)
 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
 [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>


On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:19 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Dear IESG,
Dear Donald (author of rfc6042bis),
Dear int-area WG chairs,
Dear IEEE-IETF coordination,

Based on the recent IEEE liaison statement [1] about rfc6042bis[2] , I have drafted an updated IESG statement [3] with the trivial changes about IEEE EtherTypes:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13N_9uwTNCnf8ZlzPeEUuAkOgqhvaBJsUSee4E5ENFw8/edit?usp=sharing

Would you mind reviewing those changes ?

If everyone agrees, then let's minute the approval during the IESG telechat on Thursday 27th of April and update the IESG statement.

Thanks in advance,

-éric

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1823<https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1823/>
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis/
[3] https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/ethertypes/

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