Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination

Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Thu, 05 November 2015 05:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination
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I mentioned this to most of the people explicitly included on this note.
 JC and Suresh are going to request a non-wg mailing list for this
topic. Once I approve it, a broad announcement will be sent out so that
everyone interested can join.

Regards,
Brian

On 11/5/15 12:36 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Hi Pascal,
> 
> I am changing the distribution list of this message adding the ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org mail list and taking out int-area, 6lo, 6man, mboned to avoid too much cross-posting. 
> 
> I am interested in opinions from other participants in the IETF-IEEE 802 coordination activities. 
> 
> Note that a BOF usually takes place within IETF meeting hours, but has a list of conflicts that can include the relevant WGs in the INT (and other) areas. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) [mailto:pthubert@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:22 AM
>> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Mikael Abrahamsson; Toerless Eckert (eckert)
>> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; 6man@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org; 6lo@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination
>>
>> Hello Dan,
>>
>> I'd see it useful to give this a lot of visibility and accessibility. A BoF-type
>> meeting outside of meeting hours at this or the next IETF would probably
>> improve that piece. INTAREA has collisions that people did not necessarily get
>> a chance to manage in advance so interested people may miss the
>> presentation.
>> I would like to be sure that most interested parties have a chance to know
>> that this is happening at all.
>>
>> Some of these discussion will relate to work happening at various WGs. Out
>> of my hat and not copied above I see at least 6lo and MANET which deal with
>> radios networks and need efficient network and service discovery. Cc ing 6lo
>> because this is where RFC 6775 originated, and new work is taking place.
>>
>> There will be serious discussions, and probably documents produced in the
>> form of best practices. This work may deserve a short-termed WG on its
>> own. A non-Wg forming BoF would help figure all that out.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pascal
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan
>>> (Dan)
>>> Sent: mercredi 4 novembre 2015 10:52
>>> To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>; Toerless Eckert (eckert)
>>> <eckert@cisco.com>
>>> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; 6man@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org
>>> Subject: RE: multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination
>>>
>>> Does anybody believe there is a better/other place to go with this
>>> information?
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mikael
>>>> Abrahamsson
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 2:57 AM
>>>> To: Toerless Eckert
>>>> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; 6man@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: Re: multicast over wifi and and IEEE-IETF coordination
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [sorry, resending with correct email aliases]
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikael:
>>>>>
>>>>> Any reason to choose INTAREA ?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't choose anything, INTAREA was chosen by the people in the
>>>> coordination group that includes several ADs. The multicast over
>>>> wifi issue has been raised in multiple working groups.
>>>>
>>>>> There is already a draft in mboned:
>>>>>
>>>>> draft-mcbride-mboned-wifi-mcast-problem-statement-00.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> and... mboned runs in parallel to intarea this time *sigh* and...
>>>>> i am sure mboned participants would love to hear your preso about
>> IEEE.
>>>>
>>>> So thanks for including mboned so that people there are aware that
>>>> this is discussed in INTAREA. MBONED is not alone in having
>>>> conflicts with INTAREA, there are other low-power wireless
>>>> technology people who also have conflicts. Please discuss this issue
>>>> on the INTAREA mailing list, and you can watch the presentation
>>>> (it's not mine) after the fact on for instance Meetecho. I don't
>>>> believe there is much time for discussion in the INTAREA meeting,
>>>> they have a packed agenda already if I
>>> understood correctly.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>>>>
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