[Ietf-message-headers] Re: draft-saintandre-header-pres-00.txt etc.

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Wed, 02 January 2008 16:34 UTC

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Bruce Lilly wrote:
> N.B. replies directed to the ietf-message-headers [sic] mailing list.
> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:03:13 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Frank Ellermann wrote:
>>> 1 - why two drafts instead of one ?
>> Because some people consider IM and presence to be fully separable
>> features, which is why we have both the pres: and im: URI schemes (as
>> defined in RFCs 3859 and 3860 respectively). See also RFC 2779.
>>> 2 - who wants to publish pres URIs in email headers ?
>> Presumably people who want to show presence icons next to the names of
>> message authors.
> You're getting decades ahead of yourself -- see below.

Apple Mail has had a feature like this for years (based on information 
in the address book, not a mail header), so I don't think I'm getting 
decades ahead of myself. In fact perhaps I'm several years behind the 


Peter Saint-Andre

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