Re: [ietf-nomcom] NomCom 2023 IETF Chair/GEN AD Term Reset Proposal

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 19 September 2023 21:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-nomcom] NomCom 2023 IETF Chair/GEN AD Term Reset Proposal
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On 19-Sep-23 19:57, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> On 19/09/2023 08:05, NomCom Chair 2023 wrote:
>>       Should the cycle of appointments for IETF chair (GEN AD) be reset?
> 
> Yes, make it a 2 year appointment.

Agreed.

I also suggest that if we update RFC8713, we should include an "unforeseen
circumstances" provision that the NomCom can patch the process if necessary,
subject to a community consultation such as Martin is currently running.

     Brian