RE: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair
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From: Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com>
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair
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I agree that mixing meetings where you have to travel with neighboring meetings where you have to accommodate a TZ shift is a hard problem. And it is made much worse if there is a lot of each. For folks that have to maintain a reasonably constant meal schedule, this means finding the time to work out a meal schedule that may have to include scheduling weeks in advance (which precludes preparing meals in advance). Unfortunately, I am not seeing a choice in this case... -----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 10:17 AM To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Cc: IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org> Subject: Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair It really is different than traveling. I have been trying to figure out a simpler case, where I have already shifted my time by traveling, then am going home and attending a remote meeting in the time zone where I was. Even for that, trying to figure out when and I how I will eat and sleep is complicated. And that is with my family being very supportive. Yours, Joel On 2/27/2020 10:09 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > >> On 27 Feb 2020, at 13:06, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There have been a number of comments that an all-virtual IETF meeting would be difficult for some set of attendees due to time zone shifting while they're in their home time zone. While it's impossible to hold a particular WG session that works for ALL attendees around the world, let the WG chairs choose, for each WG, what time out of the 24-hour clock works for the majority of their active participants. It'll be up to the WG chairs to figure that out for each WG, with the approval of the relevant AD. But there's no reason why all of the WGs need to meet during the same "daylight" hours if the meeting is all virtual. WGs could also have multiple sessions optimized for different parts of the world, to spread the pain. Just a thought .... >> >> Cheers, >> Andy >> > > That is not a good idea. > > Different WGs would pick different “day” times making it difficult to attend multiple groups. > > A better idea is to shift your day to whatever TZ is proposed for the meeting as a whole. That will be no different from what you have to do when travelling, with the advantage of no dehydration and no time lost at the airport. > > - Stewart > >
- Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour affair Andrew G. Malis
- RE: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Thomas Fossati
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Robert Raszuk
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Bob Hinden
- pure-virtual asynchronous meetings? Kent Watsen
- Re: pure-virtual asynchronous meetings? Robert Raszuk
- Re: pure-virtual asynchronous meetings? Michael Richardson
- Re: pure-virtual asynchronous meetings? Keith Moore
- Re: pure-virtual asynchronous meetings? Nico Williams
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Fred Baker
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… John C Klensin
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Cullen Jennings
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Christian Huitema
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Michael Richardson
- Re: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Jen Linkova
- Re: pure-virtual asynchronous meetings? Wes Hardaker
- Re: pure-virtual asynchronous meetings? Kent Watsen
- RE: Make an all-virtual IETF meeting a 24 hour af… Eric Gray