Re: List of volunteers for the 2020-2021 NomCom
Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Tue, 30 June 2020 15:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: List of volunteers for the 2020-2021 NomCom
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From: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
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Sorry - I screwed up badly. Cut and pasted the wrong values for the function. The actual numbers are : =BINOMDIST (number of selectees [0-10], number of slots [10], percent of pool [n/160], FALSE (non cumulative)) - this is the probability of getting exactly the number of selectees, given the number of tries (slots) and how large your group is relative to the pool size. Cisco - 13 - 8.1% of pool, 37.9% of having exactly 1 , 19.3% of having 2 (sum of 2-10 selectees). Ericsson - 6 - 3.8%, 26.6,5.2 Futurewei - 10 - 6.3%, 35, 12.6 Google - 4 - 2.5% 19.9, 2.5 Huawei - 28 - 17.5%, 31/54.4 Juniper - 10 - 6.3%, 35, 12.6 Mozilla - 3 - 1.9% , 15.8, 1.4 Nokia - 3 - 1.9%, 15.8, 1.4 ZTE - 6 3.8%, 26.6, 5.2 (Huawei + Futurewei) 23.8% 20.7, 72.7 Abject apologies. And thanks for John's note that made me go back and check. I'll revise my email to Toerless with new values shortly. John - For Huawei + Futurewei, the entire row looks like: Number of Nomcom Members Percent of Volunteer Pool 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 >= 2 >=1 23.8% 6.6% 20.7% 29.0% 24.1% 13.1% 4.9% 1.3% 0.2% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 72.7% 93.4% The >= 2 is the sum of 2-10 columns . Leading to the MM >> NN. Basically, you've got 10 tries to get 2 or more selectees. So any result from 2-10 represents 2 actual selectees. Note that the BINOMDIST function does the calculation with replacement so there is some slight upward bias. Mike On 6/30/2020 12:12 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: > Taking only the groups with 3 or more volunteers you get: > > Cisco - 13 - 8.1% of the pool - 24.2% chance of having 1, 65.6% of 2 > Ericsson - 6 - 3.8% of the pool 37.5/26.9 > Futurewei - 10 - 6.3% of pool 31.5/51.5 > Google - 4 2.5% 34.9/14.6 > Huawei - 28 17.5% 3.2/95.9 > Juniper - 10 6.3% 31.5/51.5 > Mozilla - 3 1.9%, 30.9, 9.1 > Nokia - 3 1.9% 30.9/9.1 > ZTE - 6 - 3.8% 37.5/26.9 > > (Huawei + Future Wei ) 23.8% .6/95.6 > > Using the current model, Huawei with 17.5% of the pool has only a (100 > - 95.9 - 3.2) .6% chance of having no volunteers selected, a 3.2% > chance of having 1, and a 95.9% chance of having 2. If Futurewei and > Huawei are counted as separate companies, together they have about a > 50% chance of having 4 members between them (estimate rather than > doing the calculations). > > Cisco and Juniper each have more than a 50/50 chance of having two > members and a >80% chance of having at least one each.
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