Re: IPv10 I-D Destiny.

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Wed, 12 August 2020 19:31 UTC

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From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:31:02 -0400
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Subject: Re: IPv10 I-D Destiny.
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
Cc: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 2:48 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
wrote:

> Maybe there is confusion at the ietf, KRP is different than IPv10 I-D.
>

It seems clear there is no interest from IETF participants in pursuing this
work. Consider:

* More than 20 years have passed since IPv6 was published as a proposed
standard.
* IPv6 is in widespread use: for example, roughly 30% of Google's traffic
comes from IPv6 clients.
* There are already numerous v4/v6 transition and interoperability
technologies, and seemingly little appetite for developing any more.

Bringing potential work to the IETF carries the burden of convincing others
to work with you on it. You have not done this, and frankly you are
unlikely to do so as the internet engineering community has decided en
masse that the v4/v6 interoperability problem space has been sufficiently
covered by existing technologies and has moved on to other things.

Kyle