Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary)
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Tue, 16 December 2008 08:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary)
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Material comments: - Section 3: RFC 5378 expected the date on which 5378 was effective to be set by the Trust (section 2.1), and explicitly did not want to cast into RFC stone the procedure by which the changeover date was determined. - I disagree with the decision to allow *all* of a submission, including new text, to be 3978-boilerplated. As I've said before, my preferred resolution mechanism is to have a mechanism available (probably front-page disclaimer + details in the Contributors section) for listing pre-5378 sources from which material was copied without 5378 permission being granted by the authors. I believe the continued production of material that is licensed under 3978 only will be long-term harmful to the state of the IETF's IPR confusion. Harald John C Klensin wrote: > Hi. > > I've just reposted this draft as > draft-klensin-rfc5378var-01.txt. I didn't removing the material > I indicated I was going to remove because this version follows > too quickly on the previous one. > > There are only two sets of changes, but the first seemed > sufficiently important to be worth a quick update: > > (1) Alfred Hoenes caught several places in which I had > transposed digits or otherwise fouled up RFC numbers to which I > was making reference. This type of work is sufficiently > confusing without that sort of stupid problem, for which I > apologize -- I thought I had proofread it carefully enough but > obviously did not. They have been fixed. > > (2) I realized that it was necessary for completeness to > un-obsolete 3948 and 4748 if they were going to be referenced, > or material from them picked up and copied into, documents, so I > have inserted a paragraph to take care of that. > > Anyone who has successful read the -00 version and understood it > can safely ignore this one. Anyone who has not yet read -00, or > who tried to read it and was confused by the numbering errors, > may find this version more helpful. > > Comments are, of course, welcome on either one. > > john > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Questio… John C Klensin
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Que… Cullen Jennings
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Que… John C Klensin
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Que… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure Simon Josefsson
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Que… John C Klensin
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure (was: Re: IPR Que… Thomas Narten
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure Simon Josefsson
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure Sam Hartman
- Re: RFC5378 alternate procedure Julian Reschke
- http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html contains old NO… Simon Josefsson
- Re: http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html contains ol… Ray Pelletier
- Re: http://www.ietf.org/maillist.html contains ol… Julian Reschke