Re: IETF Mail List Failure

[Phillip Hallam-Baker <[e-mail]>]

Thanks for the information and the effort.

But really, aren't all these issues really showing we are trying to use the
wrong tool? IETF actually has a protocol that is purpose designed for
running mailing lists and obviates the need for DMARC hell - NNTP.

NNTP is actually two separate protocols. There is the server-server
replication protocol which was really important when NNTP was designed and
is no longer needed and doesn't scale. And then there is the client-server
interaction which is actually really useful.





On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 3:50 AM, Randy Bush <[e-mail]> wrote:

> > On 17 May, from 17:48 UTC (13:48 EDT) to 23:48 UTC (18:49 EDT),
> > outbound email from the IETF email lists failed to send. Mail sent to
> > the lists went into the archives, but was not received by list
> > subscribers.
> >
> > A problem in the DMARC-rewriting system caused outbound mail delivery
> > to fail silently, without alarm or error message. The rewriting system
> > has been taken offline, which restored outbound email service.  The
> > lists are back up.
> >
> > Unfortunately, because the mail was discarded rather than queued, if
> > you sent mail to any IETF list today during the outage window, we ask
> > you to please resend your message.
> >
> > We apologize for this issue and are working with the Tools Team to
> > correct the system before it is put back online again.
>
> thanks, alexa.  these things happen, and i won't even demand a refund :)
> sympathies for the pain.
>
> < micro-management = off >
>
> i really appreciate technical details.  there are still a few operators
> left in the ietf community, and we try to learn from our oopsies.  a
> deeper post mortem would even be welcome as many of us are also trying
> to deal with dmarc hell.  you run a medium scale mail operation and any
> lessons you share are appreciated.
>
> randy
>
>