Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata for IETF Sream RFCs
Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@nokia.com> Thu, 17 April 2008 18:49 UTC
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Russ and the IESG, I generally support this proposal. However, I think you have made it too complex. Specifically, you have three states, where I think only two are required. > o Approved - The errata is appropriate under the criteria below and > should be available to implementors or people deploying the RFC. > > o Rejected - The errata is in error, or proposes a change to the > RFC > that is clearly inappropriate to do with an errata. In the > latter > case, if the change is to be considered for future updates of the > document, it should be proposed using other channels than errata, > such as a WG mailing list. > > o Archived - The errata is not a necessary update to the RFC. > However, any future update of the document should consider this > errata, and determine whether it is correct and merits including > in the update. I think that only "Approved" and "Archived" are required. Approved is correctly for implementors to correct problems in the specification. Everything else is for a working group to consider when the RFC is revised. I see no value in making any distinction between proposed Errata if they are not Approved. It will be for the working group to decide. A working may decide to include changes to the protocol that would have been labeled as Rejected. It seems harmful to give what might well be good, but non-interoperable, changes a negative label. A working group considering a revision can clearly sort out the good and bad suggestions, just as they do to ideas presented to the working group at a meeting or on the mailing list. In essence, everything in the Archived queue, can be considered as input to the working group. Keeping it to two states should also make it easier for the IESG to process the proposed Errata in a timely fashion. I can imagine long debates on the differences between Reject and Archived. As you say in the guidelines "Deciding between these two depends on judgment". The is little to be gained by making this distinction. Bob _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata for … The IESG
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Frank Ellermann
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Pekka Savola
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Jari Arkko
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Lisa Dusseault
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Paul Hoffman
- RE: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … David Harrington
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Bob Hinden
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Bill McQuillan
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Paul Hoffman
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Sabahattin Gucukoglu
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Frank Ellermann
- RE: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Yaakov Stein
- Re: Proposed IESG Statement Regarding RFC Errata … Marshall Eubanks