Fwd: [rt.ietf.org #24364] mail.ietf.org. is ietf.org., Remove MX Records For Less Spam

Sabahattin Gucukoglu <mail@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com> Fri, 26 February 2010 04:09 UTC

Return-Path: <mail@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6433A8614 for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:09:32 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KFvb-uGwApg4 for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:09:29 -0800 (PST)
Received: from Mintaka.sabahattin-gucukoglu.com (Mintaka.sabahattin-gucukoglu.com [173.203.201.199]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A43A7EE4 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:09:28 -0800 (PST)
X-AuthUser: mail@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com
Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([::ffff:62.31.227.19]:35774) by Mintaka.sabahattin-gucukoglu.com with [XMail 1.26 ESMTP Server] id <S20C> for <ietf@ietf.org> from <mail@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com>; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:11:41 -0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077)
Subject: Fwd: [rt.ietf.org #24364] mail.ietf.org. is ietf.org., Remove MX Records For Less Spam
From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu <mail@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:11:39 +0000
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <DE51DCB7-D033-4DFD-B4E4-1F832CC3F7FC@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com>
References: <rt-3.6.5-24276-1267121804-1766.24364-6-0@rt.ietf.org>
To: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077)
Cc: postmaster@ops.ietf.org
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:09:32 -0000

Discussion, please.  See below for my take; the IETF is one host, MX is really meaningless, and there are benefits to avoiding a ton of spambot zombie spam.

Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Glen via RT" <ietf-action@ietf.org>
> Date: 25 February 2010 18:16:44 GMT
> To: mail@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com
> Subject: [rt.ietf.org #24364] mail.ietf.org. is ietf.org., Remove MX Records For Less Spam 
> Reply-To: ietf-action@ietf.org
> in-reply-to: <30D38818-DAA2-4439-A168-3AED6B3E0EB5@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com>
> references: <RT-Ticket-24364@rt.ietf.org> <30D38818-DAA2-4439-A168-3AED6B3E0EB5@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com>
> message-id: <rt-3.6.5-24276-1267121804-1766.24364-6-0@rt.ietf.org>
> rt-ticket: rt.ietf.org #24364
> rt-originator: glen@amsl.com
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Regrettably, we got many MANY complaints in the past from IETF community
> members who objected strongly to the absence of MX records.  So although
> I personally feel as you do, I cannot make the suggested change at this
> time.
> 
> Perhaps the spirit of things has changed.  You are welcome to bring this
> up on the IETF list if you want, and to quote this response.  Having
> been beaten down once, I'm not prepared to fight that battle again just
> yet.  :-)
> 
> Glen
> 
> On Thu Feb 25 06:08:22 2010, mail@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com wrote:
>> In the spirit of abiding by the rules we strive so hard to write ...
>>   :-)
>> 
>> mail.ietf.org. is ietf.org., so you can remove your MX records for
>>   ietf.org.  This should cut down on spam since a lot of spambots
>>   will skip over domains whose MX list cannot be obtained.  Real
>>   mailers will of course fall back to A/AAAA as per RFC 2821/5321.  A
>>   few hosts will have trouble, but very, very few indeed, and that
>>   isn't your (our?) fault.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sabahattin