Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environments to Proposed Standard
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Subject: Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environments to Proposed Standard
In-Reply-To: John Stewart's message of "Fri, 23 Jul 93 14:35:14 EDT." <9307231435.aa10542@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 09:43:58 -0400
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Regarding the comments on suitability of this item for the standards track: I think the IAB/IESG/IETF created a predicament for themselves by putting IDPR on the standards track. Unless some technicality exists of which I'm unaware, there is a good argument that the IDPR decision is *the* relevant precedent. I've appended the IAB statement on that occasion to this message for the sake of any who care, but don't have it handy. At this moment, if the IESG were to decide not to put this TUBA document on the standards track because of the objections advanced in the emails I've seen, I would not understand why IDPR is on the standards track. I'm not taking a position in this comment on the merits of either TUBA or IDPR either technically or as candidates for standardization. /Bill Barns (speaking as an individual only) ======== From: braden@ISI.EDU (Bob Braden) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 14:25:25 -0700 Posted-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 14:25:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199208222125.AA15996@braden.isi.edu> To: ietf@ISI.EDU Subject: IAB Protocol Action: IDPR to Proposed Standard Cc: iab@ISI.EDU, iab-stds@ISI.EDU, iesg@ISI.EDU The IAB has accepted the IESG recommendation that the InterDomain Policy Routing (IDPR) Protocol be elevated to Proposed Standard Status. IDPR is define in the Internet Drafts: o <draft-ietf-idpr-architecture-04> "An Architecture for Inter-Domain Policy Routing", and o <draft-ietf-idpr-specv1-02> "Inter-Domain Policy Routing Protocol Specification: Version1" An overview document is available as Internet Drafts <draft-ietf-idpr-summary-00> "IDPR as a Proposed Standard". IDPR is the product of the IDPR Working Group of the IETF. Rationale: In May 1989, Dave Clark published RFC-1102, "Policy Routing in Internet Protocols". After three years of further development within IETF, many of these ideas have been realized in IDPR. Unfortunately, it is not clear that there is even "rough consensus" on all particulars of this IDPR specification. This divergence of expert opinion was reflected in the lengthy technical debate following the Last Call and in many private comments. However, we believe that the general policy routing provided by IDPR (following Clark's model) may be important to the future of the Internet, and that talking about it is not enough; experience is needed. The Working Group has stated, and the IESG has agreed, that designating IDPR a Proposed Standard will foster a process of prototyping and limited deployment, to allow the Internet technical community can gather some needed experience with policy routing. To quote from the IESG summary: "IDPR can be deployed in an incremental manner and without conflict with currently deployed routing protocols. ... This deployment is not in conflict with the ongoing efforts to select and develop the next generation routing and addressing architecture and associated protocols." IDPR has satisfied all formal requirements (ref. RFC-1264) for entering a new routing protocol into the standards track, so there are no procedural grounds for deferring its entry. Standardizing a technical specification is not meant to imply anything about its applicability, i.e., when and if it is appropriate to use IDPR. For guidance on the applicability of IDPR, refer to the forthcoming Router Requirements specification.
- Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… tracym
- Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… barns
- Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… bound
- Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… RL Bob Morgan
- Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… bound
- Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environments t… IESG Secretary
- re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… Craig Partridge
- Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
- Re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… Eva Kuiper
- re: Last Call: Use of ISO CLNP in TUBA Environmen… Noel Chiappa