Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings
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Subject: Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings
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> Ned, > ... > > Frankly, I think it is more about trusting groups to be able to manage > > themselves than anything else. > I don't think that's quite fair. If you think about a participant > who is tracking several WGs and/or topics that cut across many WGs, > that person needs to be able to read everything relevant before > arriving. Really? The vast majority of document revisions I see don't make significant changes, so even when I'm tracking a bunch of groups it is exceptionally rare for me to have to read more than a few entirely new or substantially revised documents. The rest I just check to see what's changed, which takes very little time. (It also highlights another thing that's changed for us - the ready availability of tools that compare document revisions.) Again, you appear to assume that all groups have similar document loads and similar work patterns. This is simply not true. > A cutoff about two weeks in advance does make that feasible. It does nothing of the sort. Again, it is pretty common for documents that miss the deadline to be made available through other means. Whether you want to admit it or not, the fact is that individuals see this rule as damaging and are routing around it. > (Let's see - I still have about 12 drafts to read - is that unusual > with one week to go?) I would much rather have that situation, so > that I can prioritize the drafts, than have them arriving until > after I'm already in the air, which would be the inevitable result > of relaxing the cutoff rules. > That said, exceptions should definitely be possible, and I would > delegate that to WG Chair level. Well, that's a step forward, but instead of delgating an exception process why not delegate the authority to decide on an appropriate draft handling policy? Ned _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Adrian Farrel
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings James M. Polk
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Jari Arkko
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Scott Brim
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings John C Klensin
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings John C Klensin
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Scott Brim
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings John C Klensin
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Russ Housley
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Jari Arkko
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Dave Crocker
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings John C Klensin
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings John Leslie
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Dave Crocker
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Dave Crocker
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Pete Resnick
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Russ Housley
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Dave Crocker
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings John C Klensin
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Spencer Dawkins
- RE: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Eric Gray
- RE: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings John C Klensin
- Re: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Ned Freed
- RE: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings Eric Gray
- RE: Progressing I-Ds Immediately Before Meetings ned+ietf