Re: Rude responses (sergeant-at-arms?)

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Wed, 28 August 2013 01:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: Rude responses (sergeant-at-arms?)
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:28 PM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:

> Hi Phillip,
>
> At 15:53 27-08-2013, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
>> What I found incredibly rude was when an AD and Working Group chair
>> actually hissed when I gave my company name at the mic.
>>
>
> I submitted draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-**3184bis  During the
> discussions (see thread at http://www.ietf.org/mail-**
> archive/web/diversity/current/**msg00201.html<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/diversity/current/msg00201.html>)about the draft it was suggested there should be consequences of not
> following the code of conduct.  What action would you suggest against:
>
>  (i)  the Area Director in a case such as the above?
>
>  (ii) the Working Group chair in a case such as the above?
>

In that case they were the same person. Which I think was a major
structural problem in that nobody on the IESG was prepared to stand up to
him.

So I would start off by not allowing that situation to occur in the first
place.


But in general where you have a WG chair that shows blatant bias you have
to get rid of that WG chair.

If DNSSEC had been my product I would have pushed VeriSign to do more than
appeal the Opt-in debacle, I would have litigated.


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