Re: Updated potential meeting location list

Got the point about Dublin.

Regarding Barcelona, I don’t know what is in the international news, don’t trust them, neither local tourism bureau, they were selling us “all good” when we did the visit a few years ago, I was telling “no” and time proven I was right. Is sad to say, because I will be very happy to have a meeting in Barcelona, but this is not a resolved issue, for at least 2 more years, may be even more.

Furthermore, I think there in only a single conference center that match our criteria. Nothing changed in that regards. And that one is *very* expensive.

Regards,

Jordi

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El 20/2/20 14:55, "Jay Daley" <jay@ietf.org> escribió:

Hi Jordi

On 20/02/2020, at 4:45 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

If Dublin is the same hotel as the previous time, please discard it. It is not matching the selection criteria.

This list is for cities only, without any specific venue having been selected.

Even if I was born in Barcelona, I'm sorry to say this: I strongly suggest not going there until the criminals that declared independency stop it definitively. Otherwise, there is a high risk of anything bad happening. Did happen already several times. Once that it is resolved, I will be happy to work on that. A further problem is the high cost of the suitable hotels/conference centers, at least compared with Madrid.

Thank you for that feedback.  We last asked for feedback on Barcelona in March 2017 and may now need to formally ask for further feedback given the changing circumstances since then.

kind regards

Jay

I continue to work in looking at other possible venues in Spain, but I don't think any others can match our selection criteria at the time being.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet

El 20/2/20 14:34, "IETF-Announce en nombre de IETF Executive Director" <ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de exec-director@ietf.org> escribió:

   The IETF Administration LLC has updated the list of locations (cities) that have been assessed for their suitability to hold an IETF meeting [1]. This follows extensive assessment of each city including the solicitation and analysis of community feedback. This update adds 29 cities to the list of those assessed as suitable and 2 to those assessed as unsuitable while 8 are still being assessed. 

   This update is long overdue, for which we apologise, particularly to those that took the time to provide feedback and particularly as some of those cities only now listed as suitable have already been selected for IETF meetings.

   The cities that have been added to those assessed as suitable are:

               Austin
               Athens
               Barcelona
               Boston
               Calgary
               Chiba
               Denver
               Dublin
               Edinburgh
               Fukuoka
               Glasgow
               Houston
               Kobe
               Kyoto
               Malta
               Nagoya
               New Orleans
               Niigata
               Osaka
               Ottawa
               Philadelphia
               San Francisco
               Sapporo
               Singapore
               Stockholm
               Tokyo
               Toronto
               Vancouver
               Washington DC

   The cities that have been added to those assessed as unsuitable are:

               Nassau, due to concerns about corporate travel approval
               Macau, due to concerns about corporate travel approval

   The cities that are still being assessed are:

               Busan
               Helsinki
               Hyderabad
               Kolkata
               Marrakesh
               New Delhi
               Panama City
               Tel Aviv

   Please note the following important information on the meeting location selection process:

   * The meeting policy [2] is for an annual rotation between Asia, Europe and North America (the "1-1-1" policy).  

   * The final selection of meeting location is based on a complex set of criteria and so multiple cities are assessed and then multiple cities and venues are visited in each region before a selection is made.  This process generally takes some years to complete.

   * The cities on the list have not yet been chosen to host an IETF meeting, this is an early stage in a long process.

   * Inclusion on the list as a suitable location does not mean that an IETF meeting will be held in that location, only that it is now a location that we can explore further.

   * We are working on a mechanism for the community to recommend specific cities, which will involve much more than just nominating a city, and until then we will not be accepting any recommendations.

   Please feel free to contact me directly if you have questions or comments

   [1] https://ietf.org/how/meetings/admin/meeting-location-input/
   [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy/?include_text=1

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