Re: limiting our set of cities

Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> Thu, 20 February 2020 20:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: limiting our set of cities
From: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>
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Michael

> On 21/02/2020, at 12:40 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2020, at 11:34 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jay, and/or Jason:
>>> 
>>> Can you tell the community if the LLC has any plans/thoughts to stop
>>> looking for new places to meet, rather to just establish a list of
>>> 10-15 cities where we have successfully met, and simply repeat?
> 
>> I don’t think that is an LLC decision to make - it’s a community
>> decision.  Having said that, my initial impression after just a few
>> months in the job is that idea would not sit well with our sponsors who
>> want to see us visit new/specific cites and countries.  Reducing
>> sponsor interest is a big risk to take.
> 
> Dear IETF LLC board,
>  Do you have a plan to engage the community on how to make this decision?
>  Is this a decision that you have on your radar?

As the LLC Board have noted in recent announcements [1], with me now in this new role they are moving to being a strategic/oversight board and the responsibility for managing operational matters such as this falls to me.

The answer to your questions is that the community has established its consensus [2] and my focus in this area is to develop the operational processes necessary to implement that.  If the community wishes to change that selection process, then regular IETF procedures apply and the LLC will then work to implement the new consensus in operational processes.

> I'd like to know about the places that our sponsors would like to see us go,

As would I, hence the need for a proper process to solicit that.

> and I'd like to know if/why/how a list of 15 cities would be overly restrictive?

That is a question for MTGVENUE (see Alissa’s recent note on that [3])

> Again, remembering that we also have "*" to fill.

Not necessarily.  The policy [4] leaves that to "The timing and frequency of future exploratory meetings will be based on IETF consensus as determined by the IETF chair."


[1] https://www.ietf.org/blog/recap-january-2020-ietf-llc-board-retreat/
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process/ 
[3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/7BNE9lSYGiobqw-uITjSb32BVD4
[4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy/?include_text=1

Jay

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