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Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Sat, 25 July 2015 17:47 UTC

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Perhaps we could let the remote folk pilot the camera...

Of course someone would need to write a protocol for that.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> > On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Scott O. Bradner <sob@sobco.com> wrote:
> >
> > and a always-paying-attention operator (for each room)  to know when to
> switch - potentially adding significantly
> > to the cost
>
> No doubt, but I we may gone too far by eliminating a camera operator in
> the room. We pay for it in quality.  I suggest spending a few hours
> watching a recording session and see what you think.
>
> >
> > fwiw - standing in a place where you can be seen by the camera so that
> the remote experience is better
> > without having to dedicate a camera operator to each room seems a very
> very small price to pay
>
> I agree.
>
> Bob
>
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 24/07/2015 22:23, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>>> A proposal...
> >>>> Could Meetecho please just zoom out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alternative proposal...
> >>>> Make the pink box a guide for speakers who want to be in frame, but
> stop telling
> >>>> us that we MUST stand in the box.
> >>>
> >>> Also, we *really* need a repeater screen so that the person speaking
> can see
> >>> the slides without eyes in the back of his/her head. Speaking
> coherently about
> >>> a slide that I cannot see is beyond my powers.
> >>
> >> While we are talking about making remote participation better.
> >>
> >> I watched a recorded working group session last night.  Currently the
> video is only of the slides and a small view of the speaker.
> Unfortunately, when someone comes to the microphone, you don’t get to see
> them speak.  It would be much better if one could see them when they talk.
> This might require panning the main camera, or a second camera (and I guess
> a second “pink square”).
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

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