Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-known-ports-00.txt
David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Thu, 25 May 2006 03:52 UTC
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 20:51:57 -0700
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Subject: Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-known-ports-00.txt
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Hi, On May 24, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > On Wednesday, May 24, 2006 03:11:29 PM +0200 Eliot Lear > <lear@cisco.com> wrote: >> Yes, the distinction between well known ports and just assigned >> ports is >> outdated. The overarching theme of the document is that the IANA >> should >> be treated as a group of adults Heh. :-) >> and that they should use some discretion >> with oversight only where needed. > > Careful here... > > (1) The IANA is a group of adults, but it is no longer a group of > protocol subject matter experts. IMHO there is probably no need > for IESG oversight of port number allocation, especially if we are > eliminating the (artificial) scarcity of so-called well-known > ports. The scarcity of ports is not artificial. There are only 16 bits of port space and changing the number of bits in ports will be ... interesting. > (2) As I understand it, for ports above 1024, the IANA does _not_ > assign > values - it just registers uses claimed by others. This is not accurate. The IESG has been explicit in that IANA assigns port numbers (both well known and user), it does not register use. > Second, I believe that having a complete, accurate registry of port > numbers is highly valuable. As do I. It does not currently exist. > That means that they won't be known to network administrators or > network traffic analysis tools, Of course, the port registry does nothing to stop any protocol using any port. It might be useful to figure out what function folks expect the IANA port registry to perform. Rgds, -drc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-know… John C Klensin
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Eliot Lear
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… John C Klensin
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… David Conrad
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… David Conrad
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Eliot Lear
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Eliot Lear
- RE: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- RE: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- RE: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Mark Andrews