Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-known-ports-00.txt
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Tue, 06 June 2006 05:45 UTC
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FnUO1-0005q0-RF; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:45:53 -0400
Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FnUNx-0005o1-KZ for ietf@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:45:49 -0400
Received: from vapor.isi.edu ([128.9.64.64]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FnUGy-0006ZO-SN for ietf@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:38:38 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.42] (pool-71-106-102-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.106.102.77]) by vapor.isi.edu (8.11.6p2+0917/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k565Y3U18939; Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <448513C5.9000409@isi.edu>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:33:57 -0700
From: Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
References: <883F4A921E26D32C08E569F0@p3.JCK.COM> <44745B81.8000508@cisco.com> <7DFCB2920E3DCE504E503EBD@sirius.fac.cs.cmu.edu> <4477016D.3070702@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <4477016D.3070702@cisco.com>
X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034
Cc: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-known-ports-00.txt
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org
Eliot Lear wrote: > Jeff, > >> Disclaimer - I wasn't even aware of this document before reading this >> thread. However, I have now read it, so feel prepared to comment. > As it only just came out, you haven't missed much of a debate. >> (1) The IANA is a group of adults, but it is no longer a group of >> protocol subject matter experts. IMHO there is probably no need >> for IESG oversight of port number allocation, especially if we are >> eliminating the (artificial) scarcity of so-called well-known ports. > > The point of the document is NOT really to deal with scarcity but to > deal with an outdated process, and to attempt to encourage use of SRV > records where appropriate, and to have some documentation for the port > use. ... SRV records are not equivalent to either assigned or mutually-negotiated ports; they would require extra messages, extra round-trip times, and/or extra services (DNS) beyond what is currently required. There are other ways to reduce the limits of the current port space, as well as to reduce the dual-registration of service names (which are unique) and port numbers. See: draft-touch-tcp-portnames-00.txt (FYI there is a pending update that includes more detail on the difference between this and Tim Shepard's dynamic port reassignment proposal from 2004) Further discussion on this has already ensued on the TCPM WG mailing list, whose archives may be a useful resource as well. Joe _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-know… John C Klensin
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Eliot Lear
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… John C Klensin
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… David Conrad
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… David Conrad
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Eliot Lear
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Eliot Lear
- RE: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- RE: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- RE: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Joe Touch
- Re: Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-… Mark Andrews