Re: Missing requirement in draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch? (was Re: New Version Notification - draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-05.txt)

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Wed, 03 April 2013 16:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Missing requirement in draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch? (was Re: New Version Notification - draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-05.txt)
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Alexey:

Of course we want to be able to delete spam, but this is being used to access an archive, so only the administrator should be able to delete the spam.

Russ


On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

> On 27 Mar 2013, at 20:31, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
>> While looking at it, I noticed we don't explicitly say that this IMAP interface MUST NOT
>> allow messages in the archive to be deleted
> 
> I would actually allow administrative users to delete messages (e.g. spam), but such actions should be recorded in logs. Other users shouldn't be allowed to do that.
> 
>> or moved to other mailboxes, and MUST NOT
>> allow messages to be inserted. I plan to add those as requirements in the next version.
> 
> This is fine with me.
>