Re: Proposed IETF Websites Privacy Policy; Community Input Requested

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sun, 22 March 2015 20:17 UTC

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 12:41:25 -0700
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Subject: Re: Proposed IETF Websites Privacy Policy; Community Input Requested
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Hello,
At 08:52 03-02-2015, IETF Administrative Director wrote:
>The IAOC would like community input on a proposed IETF websites 
>Privacy Policy.
>
>We are required by California law (and good net citizenship) to have 
>an accurate
>privacy policy on our websites.  Counsel have reviewed this 
>statement for compliance
>with US and EU privacy regulations.

[snip]

>The IAOC will consider all comments received by 17 February 2015.

Apologies for the late response.

The proposed privacy policy for the IETF web site is four 
pages.  Most people probably won't read beyond "the Internet 
Engineering Task Force (IETF) is committed to protecting
the privacy and security of the personal information of our 
participants and of visitors to our site".

What is the meaning of the following:

   "You also consent to our using the information to communicate with 
you further
    about your interaction with the site, programs, and services, hat 
IETF may offer
    to you, and your relationship with IETF."

   "If you provide personal data through this site, you acknowledge 
and agree that
    such personal data may be transferred from your current location 
to the offices
    and servers of the IETF and its affiliates, agents, and service 
providers located
    in the United States and in other countries."

In simple terms the person is agreeing to his/her personal data to be 
transferred anywhere in the world and to (unknown) affiliates of the IETF.

   "When you interact with the site, we strive to make your experience easy and
    meaningful. We may use cookies and other means to track user activity and
    collect site data."

The above text about cookies sounds like marketing.  I suggest 
explaining that the IETF uses cookies for purposes X, Y, etc and list 
some information about the cookies for the technically-inclined.

   "We offer specific opt-in and opt-out options so if you do not 
wish to receive
    such mailings, please inform the IETF by email, phone, or postal 
mail directed
    to the contact information provided at"

Doesn't the IETF use "opt-in" by default?

Regards,
S. Moonesamy