Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapore, onwards
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Tue, 24 May 2016 14:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapore, onwards
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On 5/24/16 08:20, Leslie Daigle wrote: > an IETF meeting that is 18 months away is actually an IETF meeting NOW > for planning purposes. What I'm hearing (here and elsewhere in the thread) is that we have a long-term policy issue that we should address with considerable deliberation and at a pace that respects the gravity of the issue; and that we have an extremely short term "go or no-go" decision that needs to be made now, right now, immediately regarding IETF 100. While there have been a variety of positions put forth on the topic, I think there's good evidence in this conversation that the final, long-term policy that we'll form on this topic would probably, if complete and in place today, rule out Singapore as a potential destination. It's not a foregone conclusion, and I'm not trying to claim anything like consensus. I'm just pointing out that it's a real possibility. From that perspective, it seems that the snap judgement that needs to be made right now can only safely be made by revectoring to a different location. If the situation is as urgent as you portray it to be, it sounds like there's not time for the more protracted course of action you propose, unless going to Singapore is a foregone conclusion and this is merely an exercise in justification. /a
- A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapore, o… Leslie Daigle
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Randy Presuhn
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Alissa Cooper
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Stephen Farrell
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ted Hardie
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Stephen Farrell
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Jari Arkko
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Leslie Daigle
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Adam Roach
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Adam Roach
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Leslie Daigle
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Michael Richardson
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ben Campbell
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… George Michaelson
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Randy Bush
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… John C Klensin
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Michael Richardson
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Sandoche Balakrichenan
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Michal Krsek