RE: Is WAP mobile Internet??

Lloyd Wood <l.wood@eim.surrey.ac.uk> Wed, 05 July 2000 16:50 UTC

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On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Randy Bush wrote:

> my point is not to push sms or whatever.  but that by "on the internet" i
> think we mean having unincumbered availability of the common application
> protocols, email, http, ftp, ssh, ...  

that's not quite enough; in the UK we're seeing cable-modem ISPs
attempt to restrict services to those applications, or to a subset of 
those applications (lotsa luck setting up an http server or using
ssh.)

being on the Internet means that you can choose to deploy and use new
Internet applications that use the Internet in new ways...

> i may not choose to use/install them
> all, but the commumications technology i use (note this did not say the end
> device) should not prevent me from doing so.

...without having to ask some telco's permission or pay more to enable
the ability. (This is distinct from charging for extreme capacity
use.)

L.

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