Re: [Enum] (no subject)

"Jim Fleming" <jimfleming@prodigy.net> Thu, 25 October 2001 13:20 UTC

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From: Jim Fleming <jimfleming@prodigy.net>
To: Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski@verisign.com>, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
Cc: enum@ietf.org, "ietf@ietf. org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Enum] (no subject)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:12:25 -0500
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Dave,

Do you think it is ethical for people to not disclose who is paying them
and what their real agenda is ?

It is widely reported that you are paid by Neustar, Neulevel, ICANN,
and/or MCI/Worldcom (i.e. Vinton Cerf).

Will you be disclosing who has paid you all these years to participate
in discussions as if you are a neutral party ?


Jim Fleming
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc@dcrocker.net>
To: "Tony Rutkowski" <trutkowski@verisign.com>
Cc: <enum@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Enum] (no subject)


> At 04:36 PM 10/24/2001, Tony Rutkowski wrote:
> >A NeuStar Strategic Manager introduces and argues for
> >an IETF based activity that just happens to support NeuStar's
> >announced strategic business plan.
>
> Tony,
>
> The IETF culture typically reacts poorly to efforts to slander.
>
> It also is quite comfortable with people doing things that benefit their
> companies.  One might even suspect that YOU have done the same, once or
twice.
>
> The real question in the IETF is about the merits of specific
> proposals.  You seem unconcerned with that measure, although it is the
only
> one that carries any weight in the IETF.
>
> If you have a specific concern about activities by the ENUM working group
> chair, the procedures for remedying your concerns are well
> documented.  Public ad hominems are not in the set of established, valid
> procedures.
>
> Please refer to the relevant IETF documents concerning process challenges.
>
> Please, then, follow them.
>
> d/
>
> ----------
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