Re: [Enum] (no subject)
"Jim Fleming" <jimfleming@prodigy.net> Thu, 25 October 2001 13:20 UTC
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From: Jim Fleming <jimfleming@prodigy.net>
To: Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski@verisign.com>, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:12:25 -0500
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Dave, Do you think it is ethical for people to not disclose who is paying them and what their real agenda is ? It is widely reported that you are paid by Neustar, Neulevel, ICANN, and/or MCI/Worldcom (i.e. Vinton Cerf). Will you be disclosing who has paid you all these years to participate in discussions as if you are a neutral party ? Jim Fleming Why gamble with a .BIZ Lottery? Start a real .BIZ Today ! http://www.DOT-BIZ.com 0:212 - BIZ World ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc@dcrocker.net> To: "Tony Rutkowski" <trutkowski@verisign.com> Cc: <enum@ietf.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Enum] (no subject) > At 04:36 PM 10/24/2001, Tony Rutkowski wrote: > >A NeuStar Strategic Manager introduces and argues for > >an IETF based activity that just happens to support NeuStar's > >announced strategic business plan. > > Tony, > > The IETF culture typically reacts poorly to efforts to slander. > > It also is quite comfortable with people doing things that benefit their > companies. One might even suspect that YOU have done the same, once or twice. > > The real question in the IETF is about the merits of specific > proposals. You seem unconcerned with that measure, although it is the only > one that carries any weight in the IETF. > > If you have a specific concern about activities by the ENUM working group > chair, the procedures for remedying your concerns are well > documented. Public ad hominems are not in the set of established, valid > procedures. > > Please refer to the relevant IETF documents concerning process challenges. > > Please, then, follow them. > > d/ > > ---------- > Dave Crocker <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com> > Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://www.brandenburg.com> > tel +1.408.246.8253; fax +1.408.273.6464 > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
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