RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP list]
"Thomas Gal" <tom@triagewireless.com> Thu, 29 September 2005 01:12 UTC
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From: Thomas Gal <tom@triagewireless.com>
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Subject: RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP list]
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> > Thomas Gal wrote: > > [..] > > I hope that being too > > forceful, stubborn, or persistent (NOT oblivious or ambivalent) > > doesn't become justification for reprimand. > > Since when have political conspiracy theories, allusions to > impending legal action and references to other people's > dating lives been admirable examples of 'forceful, stubborn, > or persistent' discourse? > I guess those first two kinds of things (my personal least favorite is the age old "if the IETF doesn't [insert personal uber-issue here] then it shall be doomed to irellevancy") usually end up slipping in as an adjunct to heated converstation, hence I proposed a cooling off mechanism in another email. That being said references to other people's dating lives (true or not) clearly has no way of being on topic, and definitely would make a good example of what I mentioned could be a series of examples of innapropriate posts. In fact even in the case of political conspiracy and impending legal action, despite being dropped here and there, there's nothing to stop the parties at any time from lapsing back to pointed objective discussion of the facts. It just usually doesn't work out that way. > cheers, > gja > -Tom
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- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nick Staff
- RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Brian E Carpenter
- [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP list] David Kessens
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nicholas Staff
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Steven M. Bellovin
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nicholas Staff
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Dean Anderson
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Dean Anderson
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… bill
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nick Staff
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… David Kessens
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Tim Bray
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nick Staff
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Dave Crocker
- RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Dean Anderson
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Dean Anderson
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Dean Anderson
- RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Dean Anderson
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Steven M. Bellovin
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nick Staff
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nick Staff
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… John Leslie
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nick Staff
- delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary p… Dave Crocker
- Procedures for the IETF list (RE: [dean@av8.com: … Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… C. M. Heard
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Robert Elz
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… wayne
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Bill Sommerfeld
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Stephen Sprunk
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… usphoenix
- RE: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Nick Staff
- RE: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Nick Staff
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Dean Anderson
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Theodore Ts'o
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Dean Anderson
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Dean Anderson
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Kevin Loch
- Anycast DNS [some tech] was RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8… Dean Anderson
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the DNSOP lis… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Michael Thomas
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Scott W Brim
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Dave Crocker
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Alexis Turner
- RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Thomas Gal
- RE: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Thomas Gal
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… grenville armitage
- RE: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Thomas Gal
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Dave Crocker
- RE: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Nick Staff
- Minority opinions [Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismanageme… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [dnsop] [dean@av8.com: Mismanagement of the D… Dean Anderson
- RE: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Dean Anderson
- Re: Minority opinions [Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismana… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- RE: Minority opinions [Re: [dean@av8.com: Mismana… Thomas Gal
- RE: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Nick Staff
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… grenville armitage
- Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Theodore Ts'o
- RE: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplina… Nick Staff