Re: Transparency of IAOC

SM <> Wed, 13 April 2016 08:33 UTC

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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:30:21 -0700
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Hi Brian, Ted, Spencer,
At 13:32 12-04-2016, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>Of course it is. But (compared to the IESG) the IAOC does deal with a
>comparatively large fraction of issues that have confidential aspects -

I'll skip this as there is a comment at

At 13:33 12-04-2016, Ted Lemon wrote:
>I feel I can speak as an authority on this topic 
>when I say that there is zero chance that this 
>is a problem. Â  If the IAOC do not always do 
>what we want, it is because (a) that is 
>impossible, since there is no "we" that is both 
>in agreement and also representative of the 
>wishes of all IETF participants and (b) I know 
>everybody on the IAOC and they just don't behave 
>as if they think complaining by IESG people is a problem.


At 13:51 12-04-2016, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
>SM, if you're talking about people in 
>"leadership" (is that what we are?) asking 
>questions of the IAOC on the IETF mailing list, you may very well be right.

The term "leadership" was used in the message at

>But I do drop notes to the IAOC directly, either 
>to the IAD or to the overall IAOC, and I don't 
>know how anyone in the broader community would know that I've done that.