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Lloyd Wood <l.wood@eim.surrey.ac.uk> Mon, 31 March 2003 15:11 UTC

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Keith Moore wrote:

> > What is not
> > fixable is the fact that apps will break if you change an address out
> > from under them.
>
> heck, TCP breaks if you change an address out from under it, so it's
> hardly surprising that apps using TCP break under similar conditions.
> the TCP/IP architecture simply was not designed to tolerate hosts
> changing addresses.  and no, IPv6 doesn't fix this. actually it's very
> difficult to fix at anything above layer 3.

hosts could advertise static loopback addresses. Bind TCP to the
static loopback address.

L.

That identity/location overlap always gets you in the end.

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