Re: Meetings in other regions

Hi Joel,

I know that in most of the cases, the connectivity can also be arranged as
part of the "local" sponsorship package. That's why I've used "etc." :-)

Regards,
Jordi

> De: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@uoregon.edu>
> Responder a: <ietf-bounces@ietf.org>
> Fecha: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:28:41 -0700
> Para: <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
> CC: <ietf@ietf.org>
> Asunto: Re: Meetings in other regions
> 
> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> That's part of the problem, sponsorship should be managed from a different
>> perspective, and totally decoupled from the venue itself.
>> 
>> IETF should look for "global" sponsors, in a given time frame, for example
>> for a year, or just a meeting if needed, but as said *decoupled* from the
>> venue.
>> 
>> Local sponsors can take care of the social, breaks, etc.
> 
> As you know Jordi local sponsors have historically been invaluable in
> getting access to local resources, like network connectivity and
> handling the logistics of network setup.
> 
> having local support is always better than not having it.
> 
>> At this way the main costs (meeting rooms, AV, secretariat, etc.), are
>> covered in a fair and planned way, and not dependant on each meeting itself.
> 
> Some costs. E.G. connectivity are in fact highly dependant on the
> meeting location. You whole budget takes a bath the first time you have
> to sign a 12 month lease with the ptt/ilec on an e/ds-3 to get
> connectivity into a venue. Do you then go back to that venue for the
> next meeting because you're still paying $8000 a month for the circuit?
> 
>> Also this provides the IAD the budget ahead so can book the most convenient
>> venues at least 18 months up-front, and allow a cost reduction for both IETF
>> itself, and attendees which can get better traveling deals and more time for
>> those that need to request an authorization to their management, etc.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> De: YAO Jiankang <ietf@cdnc.org>
>>> Responder a: <ietf-bounces@ietf.org>
>>> Fecha: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:31:56 +0800
>>> Para: John L <johnl@iecc.com>
>>> CC: <ietf@ietf.org>
>>> Asunto: Re: Meetings in other regions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John L" <johnl@iecc.com>
>>> To: "YAO Jiankang" <ietf@cdnc.org>
>>> Cc: <ietf@ietf.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Meetings in other regions
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> I do think there is considerable merit in identifying a set of venues
>>>>>> that are known to do a good job and using them whenever a meeting is
>>>>>> scheduled for their part of the world.  Minneapolis is roughly in the
>>>>>> middle of the populated part of North America, the hotel knows us,
>>>>>> why not go back there?
>>>>> it seems boring that everytime we go to the same venue.
>>>> Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don't find IETF meetings to
>>>> be exciting enough on their own merits, it's OK if you don't go.
>>> Why not kill two birds with a stone? after enjoying the nice merits of the
>>> IETF meeting, you can appreciate the different life in the different cities
>>> at
>>> the weekend.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> It is also unfair to those who traveled from other regions such as
>>>>> europe and asia.
>>>> I said "whenever a meeting is scheduled for their part of the world."
>>>> When it's time for a meeting in North America, hold it in Minneapolis.
>>>> If we find similarly reliable venues in Europe or Asia, use them when the
>>>> meetings are in those parts of the world.
>>> Every IETF meeting is sponsored by the different companies. The sponsors
>>> normally love holding the meeting in the local city where the sponsor is
>>> located. Even you and me agree that the meeting is held in the same city,
>>> the
>>> sponsor may disagree.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> R's,
>>>> John
>>>> 
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