Re: actions related to improving IETF meeting selections

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Sun, 12 June 2016 18:24 UTC

Return-Path: <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2C412D1EA for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.7
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pVtREYS868de for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:24:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82D0912D18E for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:24:41 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pa0-x230.google.com with SMTP id bz2so38569395pad.1 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:24:41 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dd55KwOYLTcRWNonCVnazkR10amtNR1O88PvVSzgElk=; b=Fuph8Otcr3ptwmABdiQ4r5zCtFabZQoU+O+eyQXNXPCZHdv/LSVEzjQITBSifysv5l gk9eNXKY4zFGYCNi6ZPANW5PFjq+z6yy7SL7BstrwbVNRdFV4UQaFxaHmA4s/6RqJTTE dYV5/uTAjrqMIYvDMZCflze2MXucLa5fXmoVMT50QcS7UphahcISaYEUpRCZQ5yXd0O7 Tll6tEGliEy1i/hcPy8he+XVgJCb2Z3gMPSYU0Qjoe2fcGckyUIGRGzlW0ILZs9nQvo6 CsCx65tVp0xAXtqhNzqND0EIuV/nJk94cINl/TMqICkpaFTV7MQx7NVHZhJjkPlrSlAA K1Xg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dd55KwOYLTcRWNonCVnazkR10amtNR1O88PvVSzgElk=; b=k617oSaAxHP/ulXDAm/56M+MSa2wLu4a2rGdbnWi4mwoFmwbLng707xPXLmPLkB3NA d9yJT40ViJ/D+aFKp1YjUTlUGWpm/0kJAWxwES+Jkqhdk1FrDbzDTeGFlxT/eeaZwOF5 P6eJAUZZQ04d6fm/Ueqg5oUcEuz/s+ZPKEwTM32iUjfMByuooyHEKx1NMxjhpq6TLcV5 UmBL1hyxuV8EaV7Zft0SsV+nKBWkv/YskTIq2QDOuy43+lWv7hIcTnOAVLVUDusJu0Tl iYcrmsEIKxJ89gHi29X4GMn0hqq1EQWYWwPctWtuRVTgKQmb1wLDc9T5Ra7fV5O9yk6m wmtQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLwDxQNOqBo+ii8tcrSTthFIsHvPFRvpg9KVpwrFlIy6/DfV2ITe1zi1tuvq8Ah3A==
X-Received: by 10.66.47.133 with SMTP id d5mr17208776pan.48.1465755880878; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from Melindas-MacBook-Pro.local (216-67-52-206-radius.dynamic.acsalaska.net. [216.67.52.206]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 132sm31674457pfc.52.2016.06.12.11.24.39 for <ietf@ietf.org> (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: actions related to improving IETF meeting selections
To: ietf@ietf.org
References: <0DAA04D6-03FE-444D-ABF9-4A1CF2F7DFC9@ietf.org> <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927CA81040@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> <557685565.1303569.1465745474144.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <CAPt1N1nqg9nbkgUGq2GSe7_Pu36aFx8WvX6KopZ0N9Ot9n-ceQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <312eb527-e0f0-d26f-b653-bcd0a24d8915@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:24:32 -0800
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <CAPt1N1nqg9nbkgUGq2GSe7_Pu36aFx8WvX6KopZ0N9Ot9n-ceQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/VKFEC9Xj2yAxyGblvpnIMZgAdVk>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:24:44 -0000

On 6/12/16 10:06 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> This is a great idea, but would require a lot of regular IETFers to sign
> on and get support for going to those meetings.

I'm not sure it's a great idea.  IETF meetings are working
meetings, not conferences, and I'm not sure that having
additional meetings for people who are not active contributors
without the presence of chairs and document editors is going
to be productive, either in terms of the primary goal of
moving documents along or in terms of a secondary goal
of broadening the participant base.

Melinda