Re: BCP 78 policy / copyright / Generative AI / LLM .. is there a FAQ?

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 18 August 2025 16:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: BCP 78 policy / copyright / Generative AI / LLM .. is there a FAQ?
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It appears that Job Snijders  <job@sobornost.net> said:
>Is it documented somewhere for IETF newcomers that internet-draft
>submissions should not contain LLM/AI generated text? I imagine that
>similar clarifications for the IETF context along the lines of "text
>_about_ AI is fine, but text generated by AI has legal implications"
>would be very helpful.

I don't recall it coming up before, but you are correct that it is a
significant issue.

To connect the dots, when you submit an I-D you have to grant all the
rights described in section 5 of BCP78, which says:

   The Contributor is further deemed to have agreed that he/she has
   obtained the necessary permissions to enter into such an agreement
   from any party that the Contributor reasonably and personally knows
   may have rights in the Contribution, including, but not limited to,
   the Contributor's sponsor or employer.

In view of the many ongoing lawsuits against AI companies by people who claim
that the training material for LLMs and in some cases the LLM output have
violated their copyrights, I don't see any way that you could make those
assurances for LLM generated material.

R's,
John

PS: This is my non-lawyer opinion.  If it were actual legal advice
you would know because it would be on a lawyer's letterhead and would
have an invoice attached.