Re: BCP 78 policy / copyright / Generative AI / LLM .. is there a FAQ?

[Simon Josefsson <[e-mail]>]

"John Levine" <[e-mail]> writes:

> To connect the dots, when you submit an I-D you have to grant all the
> rights described in section 5 of BCP78, which says:
>
>    The Contributor is further deemed to have agreed that he/she has
>    obtained the necessary permissions to enter into such an agreement
>    from any party that the Contributor reasonably and personally knows
>    may have rights in the Contribution, including, but not limited to,
>    the Contributor's sponsor or employer.
>
> In view of the many ongoing lawsuits against AI companies by people who claim
> that the training material for LLMs and in some cases the LLM output have
> violated their copyrights, I don't see any way that you could make those
> assurances for LLM generated material.

How about if you trained your own LLM on existing IETF RFCs only?
And/or IETF mailing list discussions?  And/or some free software
available under permissive license?  With a short acknowledgement a'la
"This draft contains text written by a LLM trained on all IETF RFCs."
(or similar) it seems that it could be argued to pass the above test.

Even e-mails are contributions to the IETF, I think, and I suspect
plenty of people already use LLMs to "improve" their e-mails, so I think
we are already down in this rathole.

/Simon