Re: Last Call: <draft-turner-md5-seccon-update-07.txt> (Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms) to Informational RFC

Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr> Wed, 08 December 2010 23:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-turner-md5-seccon-update-07.txt> (Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms) to Informational RFC
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 In your previous mail you wrote:

   The logic doesn't make sense in this position.  "Crypto modules
   can't use MD5, thus no protocols at all should use MD5."
   
=> this is a silly/bad/... consequence of the crypto label
attached to the MD5 name. I understand you are not happy with
this but what do you propose?

Regards

Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr

PS: BTW I'd like to apply the argument only to *new* protocols.