Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent to Renounce "IETF Secretariat" Trademark
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Fri, 04 April 2014 19:47 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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--On Friday, April 04, 2014 14:19 -0400 Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org> wrote: >> It sounds as if this will open the door to my being able to >> advertise myself as the IETF Secretariat. Or even the ITU's >> being able to. Yes? > > You could certainly use "Secretariat" but you cannot use > "IETF Secretariat" without violating the "IETF" > trademark. Ray, I assume that if Dave (or someone else) set themselves up as the International Elegant Tophat Fabrication Society, made at least a perfunctory effect to establish themselves as being in that business, established a business unit that they called their "Secretariat", and then advertised the result as the "IETF Secretariat", things could get dicey. Given the different line of business, they might even be able to take out a trademark on "IETF Secretariat". Right? Now, whether having a trademark registered as "IETF Secretariat" with whatever line of business the IETF and IETF Secretariat claim to be in would offer significant protection against that attack is far outside my knowledge or experience. I have enough trouble imagining someone going to the trouble to attempt the above as an attack that I think it would probably be foolish to worry about it, but it is, in principle, the difference between "no risk" and "no risk worth worrying about". john
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- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees’ Intent… David Morris
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees’ Intent… Dave Crocker
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees’ Intent… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees’ Intent… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… John C Klensin
- Re: Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees’ In… John Levine
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… John Levine
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees’ Intent… Pranesh Prakash
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… cdel.firsthand.net
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… John Levine
- CD-ROMs and secure access (was: Re: Community Inp… John C Klensin
- Re: CD-ROMs and secure access (was: Re: Community… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees’ Intent… Hector Santos
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Ray Pelletier
- RE: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Abdussalam Baryun
- RE: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: Community Input Requested on Trustees' Intent… Abdussalam Baryun