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RE: Call for Community Input: Web Analytics on www.ietf.org

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Wed, 22 May 2019 18:54 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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Subject: RE: Call for Community Input: Web Analytics on www.ietf.org
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Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 18:53:59 +0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Nottingham [mailto:mnot@mnot.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>
> Cc: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Call for Community Input: Web Analytics on www.ietf.org
> 
> Frankly, I want to track how long it takes to generate pages on them,
> because my perception of the performance is that it's pretty bad. I don't care
> about tracking users from page to page, etc.

I can pass this back to the tools team.  This type of performance measurement is not in scope for this web analytics proposal.

Roman

> Cheers,
> 
> 
> > On 21 May 2019, at 5:00 pm, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
> >
> >>   I agree that tools and datatracker should be included; while the "main"
> site is important, they are the critical resources that most people interact
> with.
> >
> > I believe the community that uses datatracker is, mostly, different from the
> community that uses the main website. What is the point of doing analytics --
> which community are we mainly trying to assess and improve?  I believe
> datatracker has a broad enough input channel for improvement and should
> be left out of this effort.
> >
> > I will be sad on the day that the IETF puts up a "we use cookies" GDPR
> notification.  I share Stephen's mild concerns about tracking and privacy.
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/

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