Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-webdav-rfc2518bis (HTTP Extensions for Distributed Authoring - WebDAV) to Proposed Standard

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 21 February 2007 01:34 UTC

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On Jan 22, 2007, at 4:49 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:

> Hi,
>
> RFC2518bis updates parts of RFC3253 (DAV:error below DAV:response)  
> in an
> incompatible way, and thus should note it in the front matter  
> ("Updates: 3253") and mention it as a change near the Changes  
> Appendix.
>
> (see <http://ietf.osafoundation.org:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi? 
> id=258>)
>
> Best regards, Julian


Sent with my behave chair hat on ...

This is always a complicated problem of does an update document  
update the documents that depend on the drafts it's updates. An  
extreme example is should TLS 1.2 update every document that uses TLS  
1.0. It's pretty unwieldy to take that path so I I think a better  
path is that 3253 depends on 2518 and when we update 3253, then it  
will be changed to depend on the RFC that comes out of the 2518bis  
draft.

The WG definitely considered the impact of the incompatibilities here  
and decided that this was an acceptable path - the only question we  
are trying to sort out here is if the id tracker shows this an up  
update on 3253 or not.

Cullen



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