Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise levels

"Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com> Mon, 09 February 2015 20:57 UTC

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From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Strong objection to draft-ietf-WG-*.all noise levels
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Agreed. I use the draft-*.all mailing lists to do what their description says they do - copy the authors, working group chairs, and relevant ADs on something specific to the draft. If I mean it to be seen by the working group, I copy the working group.

> On Feb 9, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>; wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I see that the tracker has started using email aliases of the
> form draft-ietf-WG-*.all@ietf.org to report on state changes,
> and that these aliases now apparently include the WG as well
> as the interested parties.
> 
> This is highly obnoxious. One problem is that for most recipients
> the messages are pure noise (and any follow-up messages whose CC
> list isn't manually pruned are additional noise). Another problem
> is that they are in effect BCC'ed to the WG, so existing filters
> don't catch these messages. A consequent problem of that is that
> many people are likely to do what I'm about to do: figure out how
> to spam filter all this noise, thereby risking to miss any such messages
> that actually matter.
> 
> Please please please remove the WG lists from these aliases.
> If something really needs to be brought to the WG's attention,
> there are people who know they should do that.
> 
> Regards
>   Brian Carpenter
> 
>