Re: BoF's in the Age of Covids

[Michael Thomas <[e-mail]>]

On 5/12/20 1:15 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Michael Thomas <[e-mail]> wrote:
>      > On 5/11/20 4:14 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
>      >> Michael Thomas <[e-mail]> wrote: > It's been my impression that a
>      >> substantial amount of the work for > putting together BoF's, etc has
>      >> been done loosely and informally > usually in the setting of a meeting
>      >> and drinking beers with others (aka > bar BoF). Since we seem to be
>      >> doing neither neither these days, from > what I can tell this list is
>      >> the closest to that in purpose. Yet since > it's ietf-wide it includes
>      >> lots of different areas and interests it's > easy to see how the
>      >> signal to noise ratio might get bad in a
>      >>
>      >> I agree that [e-mail] is a good starting point, but I think one
>      >> needs to take a bit of a shotgun to a half-dozen other MLs to let
>      >> people know you are thinking of something.  [e-mail] is not
>      >> universally read, alas.  Also making use of Any-of-Other-Business
>      >> section of other virtual interims to talk briefly about things.  I
>      >> wouldn't be afraid of babbling about such things in the jabber, DURING
>      >> (virtual) meetings, but also in hallway@
>
>      > You mean wg ml's? Often that is the *last* place I'd want to bring
>      > something new up and from my experience the feeling is mutual :)
>
> I'm not suggesting trying to have the conversation there, but rather, that
> it's an important place to find interested parties.  To be clear: it's for
> the announcement.


Yeah, that smells suspiciously of spam to my taste. You're trying to get 
the attention of the usual suspects, but the problem has little if 
anything to do with the wg's. The bulletin board in the lobby is a much 
more neutral place since it is passively rather than actively alerting. 
Maybe a per-area bar-bof-alert mailing list? nicer would be to be able 
to send out the idea and create a chat room for it which was reaped if 
it goes unused for some period of time.

The long and short of this is that for an org so bolted at the hip to 
e-conversations, it's going to be interesting to find all of the places 
that we're dependent to meat-space.

Mike