Re: Anti-harassment policy and ombudsperson

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Mon, 04 November 2013 15:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: Anti-harassment policy and ombudsperson
From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 3:18 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:

> FWIW, I largely agree with Dave.  I think the motives here are
> entirely appropriate, but the IESG's handing down dicta is
> questionable -- and could be quite problematic if a situation
> appeared to justify sanctions rather than just education.
>

I have a related question: Is the IESG the right body to be making these
sorts of declarations in the first place?  It seems to me that an
engineering steering group is a bit outside of its jurisdiction to be
establishing what amount to human resources positions.  The analogy to the
corporate environment, i.e., technical managers and team leads, would
certainly be the wrong body to be taking on the creation of a higher-level
HR function.

Shouldn't this be coming from one of the operational bodies higher up?

-MSK