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Re: IESG Telechats -- WebEx failure

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Fri, 11 May 2018 03:53 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 20:52:40 -0700
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Subject: Re: IESG Telechats -- WebEx failure
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
Cc: John Leslie <john@jlc.net>, IETF <IETF@ietf.org>
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On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ekr,
>
> I run Sierra (10.12) and regularly have problems with Webex crashing on
> startup. I use the latest versions of Safari and Crome.  I don’t think this
> problem is limited to old versions of the OS.


I have no experience with the WebEx client. I use the WebRTC version in the
browser.


I do fall back to the web version, but it’s UI is lacking IMHO.
>

I agree it's not great looking, but i've been reasonably happy using it.
YMMV, I guess.

-Ekr


It also doesn’t support IPv6.
>
> Bob
>
>
> > On May 10, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:34 AM, John Leslie <john@jlc.net> wrote:
> > Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you download a modern browser (Chrome, Firefox, and I imagine
> there's
> > > some way to get a new Safari) you should be able to join via browser
> (WebRTC).
> >
> >    I have the latest Chrome, Firefox, and Safari, so far as I have can
> tell,
> > that will run on my
> > ]
> > ]  OS X
> > ] Version 10.8.5
> > ]...
> > ] Processor 1.8 GHz Intel Core i5
> > ] Mmory 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
> >
> >    As I said, this is somewhat ancient... However, IMHO, it is no more
> ancient
> > than what the majority of third-world IETF participants can afford.
> >
> > I don't know what people can afford, but given that Mountain Lion has
> been out of
> > Apple support for over two years, I don't really think there's much of
> an expectation
> > that people will continue to support software for it.
> >
> >
> >
> >    I'm not entirely sure what "join via browser (WebRTC)" includes.
> >
> > It includes a full interface, including slide sharing and speaker
> identification.
> >
> >
> >    Obviously, cisco is entitled to update their free-of-charge software
> on
> > whatever schedule is convenient to them -- but the IETF should try to use
> > tools which don't break without better warning.
> >
> > See above.
> >
> > -Ekr
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Leslie <john@jlc.net> (Prior Narrative Scribe)
> >
>
>

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