Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of dissent
"D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to> Tue, 25 November 2025 10:33 UTC
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Simon Josefsson writes: > Are the subscriber e-mail addresses for IETF lists publicly available? I agree that IETF management generally shouldn't be leaking information about subscription addresses, and I agree that it's an error to conflate the _subscription_ question with transparency regarding who's _posting_. However, I don't think this matters for the specific case here. I had already publicly noted in another context that I joined the TLS mailing list in 1999. The current sideshow about subscription addresses is much more of a problem in how it leads casual readers to believe, falsely, that I was posting the message from an address I hadn't registered. This deflects from the (still unreleased) logs of how the address "got unsubscribed". ---D. J. Bernstein ===== NOTICES ===== This document may not be modified, and derivative works of it may not be created, and it may not be published except as an Internet-Draft. (That sentence is the official language from IETF's "Legend Instructions" for the situation that "the Contributor does not wish to allow modifications nor to allow publication as an RFC". I'm fine with redistribution of copies of this document; the issue is with modification. Legend language also appears in, e.g., RFC 5831. For further background on the relevant IETF rules, see https://cr.yp.to/2025/20251024-rules.pdf.)
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … Christian Huitema
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Paul Wouters
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Michael De Roover
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Paul Wouters
- Complaint to IESG regarding censorship of dissent D. J. Bernstein
- Re: Complaint to IESG regarding censorship of dis… Michael De Roover
- Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of diss… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Simon Josefsson
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Andrew Lee
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Michael De Roover
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Michael De Roover
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Michael De Roover
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Randy Presuhn
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Andrew Lee
- Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of dissent D. J. Bernstein
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Andrew Lee
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … Christian Hopps
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … D. J. Bernstein
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Simon Josefsson
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … D. J. Bernstein
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… D. J. Bernstein
- Fwd: Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of… Michael De Roover
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… D. J. Bernstein
- RE: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … Andrew Campling
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Salz, Rich
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: Complaint to ADs regarding censorship of diss… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … Christian Hopps
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … D. J. Bernstein
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … Christian Hopps
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … Andrew Alston
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … IETF Chair
- Re: Complaint v2 to IESG regarding censorship of … IETF Chair