Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas -- Draft agenda uploaded
Joseph Yee <jyee@afilias.info> Wed, 02 November 2011 22:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas -- Draft agenda uploaded
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All, Draft agenda uploaded for feedback. Final agenda deadline is next Monday, 17:00 Pacific Time. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/agenda/eai.txt Best, Joseph On 2011-11-02, at 8:15 AM, John C Klensin wrote: > > > --On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 00:33 -0400 Joseph Yee > <jyee@afilias.info> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Draft agenda to post Wednesday. Given RFC5336bis, RFC5335bis, >> RFC5337bis are in IESG evaluation, we should start focus more >> to the remaining core docs. Please let John and I know if you >> want some of the session time for presentation. > > Specifically, while circumstances could force us to make > last-minute changes, my assumption is that 5336bis and > 5335biswill be done and signed off before IETF 82 starts. > 5337bis has already been signed off and forwarded to the RFC > Editor; we are not going to talk about it unless someone > discovers a showstopper. I think we should allocate a brief > slot for any discussion of 4952bis (framework), since the second > Last Call ends on 14 November, but don't expect to spend any > time on it unless problems turn up (see below). > > So I hope the meeting can focus on three main topics: > > -- the three documents that make up the POP/IMAP group > (i.e., including popimap-downgrade). The authors and > co-chairs believe that, modulo an editing pass and some > issues that are identified in the document, those drafts > are just about ready to go to the IESG. My hope is that > we can tentatively resolve any outstanding issues during > the meeting, produce (largely editorial) revisions right > after the meeting, and then go into the Last Call > process with the goal of having them finished before the > end of the calendar year. > > -- developing a plan about what to do with the > "mailinglist" document. We either need to complete one > or be prepared to explain to the IESG and the community > why it is not necessary. I think we'd welcome a > volunteer to do a careful review on RFC 5983 and lead a > discussion about what changes and updates are required > and how we might get that done. > > -- a discussion about what we intend to do with the > various "advice" documents. I am personally a little > more comfortable moving them forward as Proposed > Standard Applicability Statements than I would have been > trying to publish ideas for which we have little > operational experience as BCPs, but that should be part > of the conversation, along with whether we have enough > consensus on the subject matter to move forward and > whether we can make a plan for the documents that won't > take the WG another several years. > > Anyone who intends to discuss the Applicability Statement versus > BCP topic to carefully read Sections 3.1, 3.2, and 5 of RFC 2026 > before arriving at our meeting. > > Reading the latest drafts of draft-ietf-eai-5721bis (POP), > draft-ietf-eai-5738bis (IMAP), and > draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade is going to be mandatory for > having a useful conversation. Please come prepared. > > Finally, as another pre-meeting task, I'd encourage everyone to > look through 4952bis, possibly in conjunction with the notes on > reopening it circulated last week, and submit Last Call comments > as you find appropriate. > > I hope to see many of you in Taipei and to hear, on-list and > before the meeting, from anyone who is not coming but who has > opinions on any of those topics. > > best, > john >
- [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas Joseph Yee
- Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas -- Draf… Joseph Yee
- Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas -- Draf… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas -- Draf… John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - WG/BoF Agendas -- Draf… Joseph Yee
- Re: [EAI] Fwd: 82nd IETF - presentation Joseph Yee