Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downgrade- Issues
"Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Thu, 31 July 2008 15:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downgrade- Issues
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Charles Lindsey wrote: > What we would want to write is > Archived-At: <http://archive.mañana.com> > which is an IRI (using UTF-8, as always with IRIs) JFTR, s/as always with IRIs/as always with EAI/ EAI always uses UTF-8, while IRIs can be in any charset determined by the context. And for EAI that context is of course UTF-8. But in a KOI8-R document it's KOI8-R: http://hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz.googlepages.com/IDN-IRI-koi8-r.html > which, upon conversion to a URI, would simply %-encode > that 'ñ'. For an <ipath>, <iquery>, or an <ifragment>. But your example has the ñ in the <ihost>, and there you would use IDNA(bis) rules to convert this into an URL: Archived-At: <http://archive.xn--maana-pta.com/> Extended by some Message-ID, as Archived-At gives you the location per message, not only some archive URL. Nobody (maybe except some XML and LEIRI geeks) has the faintest idea what a <http://archive.ma%C3%b1ana.com/> might be. It is a "syntactically valid" URL in some non-DNS parallel universe I don't care about, but it is not produced by following RFC 3987 rules. Excluding XML LEIRI abominations unrelated to a "real" world as defined by DNS, Googlebot, and W3C validator. > IDNAbis/whoever clarifies the matter. They might well > decree that valid URIs for that purpose have to be in > punycode IDNAbis won't touch URIs with a stick. The IRI to URI rules are in RFC 3987, and that uses IDNA for <ihost>: No percent characters in labels of host names, percent is not LDH. > mailto-bis is more likely to be whatever Martin > proposes, and we are in a better position to lean on > Martin :-) Mailto-bis IRIs on a KOI8-R page would be interesting: If they are transformed to UTF-8 (the first step in a IRI to URI conversion) they might work with EAI UTF-8. But if they are transformed to a mailto-bis URL they might not more work, neither EAI nor 2822upd. Mailto-bis is very near to hopeless, I'd be delighted if it at least manages all STD 66 and 2822upd hurdles, ignoring additional mailto-i18n obstacles. Frank -- <http://omniplex.blogspot.com/2008/07/html5-asinine-selfish.html> _______________________________________________ IMA mailing list IMA@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ima
- [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downgrade… Randall Gellens
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Charles Lindsey
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Martin Duerst
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Charles Lindsey
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Randall Gellens
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Charles Lindsey
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Charles Lindsey
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [EAI] Proposed resolution of List-* and downg… Charles Lindsey