Re: Further IESG feedback on draft-crispin-imapv-17.txt

ned.freed@mrochek.com Fri, 20 September 2002 18:30 UTC

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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:29:07 -0700
From: ned.freed@mrochek.com
Subject: Re: Further IESG feedback on draft-crispin-imapv-17.txt
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To: "Jeffrey I. Schiller" <jis@mit.edu>
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> So what is the lesser of two evils.

> 1)It is possible, and in fact done universally, the implement an IETF
>    Standard that sends passwords in the clear, even though we say that we
>    want secure protocols in the IETF and it has been at least three years
>    since we declared that the IETF would not standardize things with
>    plain text passwords...

> 2)We render all existing implementations non-conformant.

> An alternative that we discussed on the call which I don't believe Ned
> described was to reword the paragraph so that it was a MUST NOT unless
> the implementation or its user knew that the underlying transport was
> providing security (aka running IMAP over an SSH tunnel).

That suggestion was incorporated into the alternate wording I proposed.

				Ned