Re: [Insipid] Pre-WGLC INSIPID Session-ID Review Comments

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Fri, 12 September 2014 21:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Insipid] Pre-WGLC INSIPID Session-ID Review Comments
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Hi,

>>>>You need to give people technical reasons why they reasons they 
>>>>modify Call-ID don't apply to Session-ID. "Because the draft says so" 
>>>>is not such reason :)
>>>
>>>How about we modify the first paragraph of Section 7 to read this way:
>>>
>>>"In order to ensure the integrity of the end-to-end session 
>>>identifier, intermediaries, such as proxies >or session border 
>>>controllers, MUST NOT alter the UUID values found in the Session-ID 
>>>header, >except as described in this section."
>>>
>>>Would that help or do you think we need something else?
>>
>>Unfortunately I don't think it will help.
>>
>>No matter what the spec says, intermediaries will modify the header 
>>field if they see a need to do so. You need to describe why such need 
>>does not occur for the Session-ID header field.
>>
>
> The reasons the Call-ID or other headers were changed at the SBC was because they revealed 
> specific information about the user, including device information, user identifiers, etc.  The Session > Identifier is defined to be random (per section 4.1 of the solution spec).  This is also spelled out in 
> the referenced requirements document.

Nobody is going to read the requirements document - you need to describe it in THIS document.

>Given that, what more do we really need to say here?  I'm happy to modify that sentence in some >way that helps, but I don't want to make it so complex that it gets in the way of the procedures.  >Maybe we need something in the security considerations section?
>
> I think I understand roughly what you're shooting for, but I'm not sure what we can add that 
> doesn't confuse the text, replicate text from the requirements document, etc.  Can you suggest 
> some text and where to put it?

I think the text above, about revealing sensitive information, is good :)

Regards,

Christer