RE: [Int-area] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-laganier-ipv6-khi-01.txt
Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net> Wed, 19 April 2006 18:47 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Int-area] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-laganier-ipv6-khi-01.txt
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> But I think it is worthwhile considering whether there is benefit >to going further, and I'm happy that the IETF and IRTF are experimenting >with HIP for that. I too believe that this is a valuable experiment - the bit I find difficult to understand is why this draft proposes to use a considerable chunk of unicast address space for a use that will never include header fields in packets on the wire. >There are a few things contained in this draft: >i) specification of how ORCHIDs are constructed >ii) discussion about how ORCHIDs might be used >iii) request for IANA allocation for Context ID >iv) request for IANA allocation of an IPv6 prefix for ORCHIDs > >I would like to recommend that regardless of the outcome of this >discussion that we end up on the path to an RFC that handles "i)", >because this is the piece needed for the HIP RFCs. I don't so much care >about "ii)" since it can be handled (perhaps better) elsewhere. "iii)" >seems non-controversial. > >Regarding iv), to me, this hinges on whether IANA wants to coordinate >the 128-bit quantities used in the AF_INET6 sin6_addr field at the API >by recognizing that some experimental systems expand the semantics of >that field and use higher-order bits to distinguish between currently >used IPv6 addresses and other quantities. The allocation seems to me to >be a good idea to more formally recognize this, but not a requirement >for these experiments to continue. This is an excellent summation - thanks! Indeed we agree that whether or not the IETF comes to some consensus that (iv) is a Good Idea, these HIP experiments can continue. I just don't understand why these upper level ORCHIDs must be drawn from the same unicast token space as forwarding identifiers that are used in packets on the wire. regards, Geoff _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
- [Int-area] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-laganier-ipv6-kh… Julien Laganier
- Re: [Int-area] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-laganier-ipv… Geoff Huston
- RE: [Int-area] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-laganier-ipv… Henderson, Thomas R
- RE: [Int-area] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-laganier-ipv… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Int-area] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-laganier-ipv… Julien Laganier
- [Int-area] Progress on draft-laganier-ipv6-khi-01… Jari Arkko
- RE: [Int-area] Progress on draft-laganier-ipv6-kh… Dave Thaler
- Re: [Int-area] Progress on draft-laganier-ipv6-kh… Pekka Nikander
- Re: [Int-area] Progress on draft-laganier-ipv6-kh… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [Int-area] Progress on draft-laganier-ipv6-kh… Pekka Nikander
- Re: [Int-area] Progress on draft-laganier-ipv6-kh… Tim Shepard
- RE: [Int-area] Progress on draft-laganier-ipv6-kh… Henderson, Thomas R
- HIT and ACLs (was Re: [Int-area] Progress on draf… marcelo bagnulo braun
- RE: HIT and ACLs (was Re: [Int-area] Progress on … Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: HIT and ACLs (was Re: [Int-area] Progress on … Tim Shepard