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Re: [Iot-onboarding] EduRoam for IoT

Rafa Marin-Lopez <rafa@um.es> Tue, 10 December 2019 12:36 UTC

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Cc: Rafa Marin-Lopez <rafa@um.es>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, iot-onboarding@ietf.org, Guillaume Schreiner <schreiner@unistra.fr>
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Dear Sandoche:

> El 9 dic 2019, a las 22:40, sandoche Balakrichenan <sandoche.balakrichenan@afnic.fr> escribió:
> 
> 
> On 09/12/2019 18:45, Michael Richardson wrote:
>> Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
>>     > I think what you are aiming for is a LoRa-enabled router that can do a
>>     > radius transaction that has the appropriate federated wrapper, such as
>>     > PEAP/EAP-TLS.  Will the LoRa device know its home network?
>> 
>> At bytes/day?
> 
> ==> Absolutely.
> 
> Alternatives could be : https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-aura-eap-noob/?include_text=1

When you use EAP you need an EAP lower-layer to transport EAP between IoT device and the network. As you mention, you would like a generic solution, which means that EAP lower-layer should operate in any link-layer. PANA (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5191) provides that. Also CoAP-EAP (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap-06, https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/16/3/358) provides that feature, since it is an EAP lower-layer based on CoAP.


Best Regards.
> 
> and evolving standards from the LAKE WG (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/lake/about/) using a PKI
> 
>> 
>> I don't think that it is network onboarding, but application onboarding that
>> is desired.
>> 
> ==> Application onboarding is for the LoRaWAN scenario.
> 
> Don't we have the need for network onboarding for other IoT networks?
> 
> The objective is to come with a generic solution, if possible.
> 
> Sandoche.
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